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« Reply #20 on: 06.10. 2011 15:12 »

Ah! I knew I'd seen this is one of the Service Sheets!
Thanks, Beezageezauk.
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« Reply #21 on: 06.10. 2011 15:22 »

I received my new worm gear drive from SRM yesterday, it's now residing happily in the pump, the pump turns easily enough, I'm sure there will be a little bit of "wearing in." My next step obviously is to get the pump back in its position. To avoid repeating the problem that caused all this I will be sure that there is a gasket under the forward stud hole this time. A straight edge along the base of the pump shows the two surfaces that mate to the inner case surface are not co-planar, the forward stud will require a thinner gasket. Besides pump to case attachment being secure I am thinking that the centerline of the worm gear drive has to be very close to the centerline of the tach drive spindle so again I don't repeat my original problem of breaking the tangs. This I think will have to be by eyeball, trial and error and seeing how the spindle rotates. As per John O R's advice I removed the pump easily by removing the 3 studs and slipping it out. I am wondering now since the studs have been removed from their 51 year resting place if I should use loctite when I do the final mounting of the pump. And also maybe the four screws that hold the pump body together! The nuts that hold the pump on the studs do have star washers but I'm afraid that Murphy's Law is lurking waiting to strike again.

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« Reply #22 on: 06.10. 2011 19:49 »

Hi Rick,
Ive just had another thought after reading your last post idea
Since you observe that in your case a thinner washer  is needed for the front stud???
The main pump body and the front portion are separate pieces, its probable/possible that these can become misaligned to some degree as its only the screws holding the pump together that keep the bits aligned?Huh
I dislike the star washers intensly as they chew into the soft pump body  eek
I normally fit the pump with 3 suitable allen screws with thick steel washers under the heads, I spotface the damaged alloy flat so the washers will have support
A little screw lock on the threads if you feel its neccessary,
I would put some on the screws holding the pump together

Also check for any rot in the pump body, they crumble away with age eek

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« Reply #23 on: 07.10. 2011 18:08 »

I've been fiddling with the pump assembly a little, trying for the correct alignment after installing the new worm gear drive. I'm having a small problem with free rotation. It binds in one direction then I take it apart, it binds in the other direction. I can't tell if it's only because I'm turning it via the tach drive end with a screwdriver, it does not rotate freely enough to turn it from the worm gear itself. The parts rotate freely when the pumps is apart, not a sign of trouble. The back end does show some wear from the gears on it. I'll try dressing that a little, do a final assembly and see what happens. I keep wandering over to the SRM site and looking at their pump. I do not want to put this thing in, button everything up and then have it bind when there is some real force driving it and end up damaging the worm drive or worse. I sank some money into the engine this summer and so not want to create a problem there. What's another couple of hundred!

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« Reply #24 on: 07.10. 2011 22:32 »

G'day Rick,
                thought I'd add my 2cents worth in. The pumps can be a bit of a pain to assemble so that they run free. I find that by spinning the spindle while tightening the 4 screws a little at a time in a cross pattern and a gentle tap with a hide mallet works for me. If it binds I start again. I replaced the studs with allen head screws and use an inch/lb tension wrench to tighten evenly, with red loctite . If the pump is not co-planer I shim to suit. Doing all this without the worm in place I can check the pump spins freely. Once I'm happy I put the worm and nut on.
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« Reply #25 on: 08.10. 2011 19:27 »

the saga continues - I've taken all the good advice I've gotten here and gotten the oil pump back together, it rotates by hand freely in each direction and I'm just waiting for the loctite on the screws  to set up before I install it in the engine. I took a look at the gasket though and the holes for oil flow are smaller than the holes in the engine case. Is there any point in opening these up? Seems to me like they would offer some restriction to oil flow but maybe it's inconsequential?

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« Reply #26 on: 08.10. 2011 20:14 »

Compare them also to the holes in the pump, can't recall from memory if the pump and cranckase are the same size
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« Reply #27 on: 11.10. 2011 22:20 »

I did end up enlarging the gasket openings around the oil ports. The pump is now back in place and everything is buttoned up. And the tach drive, the reason this all started is working again. Now on to the next thing!

Thanks for all the help and advice and info!!

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