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« on: 21.02. 2011 23:09 » |
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Hi Folks,
I bought an A10 and Squire outfit a week last Sunday, hence my appearance on this website. It's not the first A10 outfit I've owned, way back in '69 I became the proud owner of a 1956 Golden Flash and Rankin double adult sidecar. I owned it for six months, had a lot of fun with it and it gave me the sidecar bug which I've suffered from eversince.
Despite a ten mile road test before I bought my latest machine, when one of the reasons I bought it was the excellent starting, a 20 mile run last Sunday with the local VMCC Section finished with said VMCC members pushing down it the car park of the cafe we'd stopped at to get the thing started. I got home, just, with it misfiring and once it stopped that was it end of the sparks. The mag is now gone off to be overhauled. It's what Classic biking is all about.
As well as introducing myself this post has a question for you. Are there Golden Flashes and Gold Flashes or, as I have read somewhere, they are all Golden?
Get the mag back in about a week, can't wait.
Sidcar
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« Reply #1 on: 21.02. 2011 23:18 » |
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Hi Sidcar! You've been on the Real Classic message board right?  Good of you to join us though and indeed you will get a lot of help here from the A7/A10 lads. I suspect the proper name for the A10 is Golden Flash but I always shorten it to Gold Flash as it's quicker to say. A very fine looking machine you have there with it's Ariel hubs, hope you enjoy your participation here. Cheers LJ. |
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Ride Safely Lads! LJ. ********************** 1940 BSA M20 500cc Girder/Rigid- In Bits! 1947 BSA M21 600cc Girder/Rigid-Green 1949 BSA A7 500cc Girder/Plunger Star Twin-Black 1953 BSA B33 500cc Teles/Plunger-Maroon 1961 BSA A10 650cc Golden Flash-Blue 1961 BSA A10 650cc Golden Flash-Red  |
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« Reply #2 on: 21.02. 2011 23:27 » |
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Hi LJ,
No, if there's a Sidcar on Real Classic message board it ain't me. I did try to post a thread on this website yesterday and it vanished into the ether never to be seen again but I can't believe it finished up on the RC site, but then you just never know.
Sid
I have to say these Ariel brakes are very good.
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« Reply #3 on: 22.02. 2011 11:41 » |
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Hello Sid and welcome to the forum.
Lovely looking outfit - was it the one on ebay recently? I was looking at it myself as I have always fancied an outfit having owned one back in the day - a Super Flash with a Steib TR500.
AFAIK they were all sold as Golden Flashes but if you have manual advance/retard you may have a Super Flash.
Having the mag rebuilt is money well spent as they do die of old age and once done with modern materials will give years of trouble free riding. As you say, it is all part of classic biking.
Whereabouts are you and do you have any other bikes?
Jim
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« Reply #4 on: 22.02. 2011 14:20 » |
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Hi Sid Welcome.
There are Gold Flashes and there are Golden Flashes. There are Golden flashes that are Black and there are Gold flashes that are Golden. There are also Blue Golden flashes and some Gold flashes in blue. I've even seen a Red Golden Flash or was it a Gold Flash in Red? Myself, I have a black Flash which is golden.
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« Reply #5 on: 22.02. 2011 17:52 » |
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I suspect the proper name for the A10 is Golden Flash but I always shorten it to Gold Flash as it's quicker to say.
LJ.
LJ, me too, I call them Gold Flashes but people get a kick out of correcting me.... I don't care though, actually, we used to call them Gold Flashes during the 50's so that's what I'll call them until my last breath. I suspect only the chap at BSA who decided to call them Golden Flashes actually did so, apart from his mum and dad through misguided parental loyalty. Alan |
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« Reply #6 on: 22.02. 2011 20:04 » |
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A further question.... So what is the Golden Flash? is it the bike itself or is it the name of the badge with the lightening flash through the BSA logo?
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« Reply #7 on: 22.02. 2011 20:21 » |
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Hi All,
Well this BSA book on Ebay calls them Golden???
number 160549280550
HTH
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« Reply #8 on: 22.02. 2011 20:28 » |
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Now come on...who's winding who up here!!
There's no such thing as a Gold Flash. Same as there's no such thing as a Golden Star.
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« Reply #9 on: 22.02. 2011 21:43 » |
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Hi Folks,
I'm in North Oxfordshire and a member of the Banbury Section VMCC (and the Federation of Sidecar Clubs). My other outfit is a 1930 BSA Sloper on which I did J'OG to LE in 2009 and LE to J'OG 2010. Last year the mag packed up the week before and I got through 3 s/h mags between Lands End and Banbury. The fourth one got me the rest of the way. If you think I had problems you should have seen the bloke on the belt drive Triumph trying to get over the Caingorms in the lashing rain (Spray-on carpet glue on the belt is the answer but unfortunately he'd left the tin on in his garage, Sods Law. I'm now a dab hand at changing Sloper mags. When we got back I had my original mag and dynamo overhauled, at a distressing cost, but there's nothing more useless than a mag that don't spark.
The Squire is a nice sidecar but in all black it looks decidedly funerial so I'm toying with the idea of adding gold stripes or flashes a BSA Badge and the words Golden/Gold Flash hence the need to get the name right.
Sid
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« Reply #10 on: 22.02. 2011 22:02 » |
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I agree, its a GOLDEN Flash
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« Reply #11 on: 23.02. 2011 14:35 » |
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Yeh, we all (mostly) know it was/is Golden Flash not Gold Flash, but that's not what Joe Public called them, unless you were posh!
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« Reply #12 on: 23.02. 2011 15:50 » |
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Definitive proof
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« Reply #13 on: 23.02. 2011 15:51 » |
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Then again maybe not
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« Reply #14 on: 23.02. 2011 21:45 » |
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Sorry I couldn't resist pointin everyone to the home page of this very forum. Is that not an official BSA poster?
( personally iv'e always said Gold Flash) but my last one was a Black Flash.
I have seen old ads from the 60s calling the black ones Black Flash.
So I reckon it was originally named The Golden Flash which would look nice painted on a bike,but in conversation most people probably say Gold Flash.
Best of luck with your decision.
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« Reply #15 on: 23.02. 2011 22:03 » |
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My mag's ready and should be back by Friday. Nice little job for the week end. I've been working my round the bike checking it over. The rear wheel has a slight amount of play in the bearings and more than one or two loose spokes. Not really desirable on a sidecar outfit so I think that will be coming out in the near future (But not before I've road tested the mag, hope it's sunny Sunday)
Another question. Timing cover, paper gasket or rtv sealer?
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« Reply #16 on: 24.02. 2011 15:28 » |
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Gasket and sealer.
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« Reply #17 on: 25.02. 2011 12:31 » |
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Mine seals very nicely with a gasket coated with a thin smear of grease.
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« Reply #18 on: 25.02. 2011 15:03 » |
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It depends on the condition/flatness of both mating surfaces but, if you don't want to have to take it off again if it does leak, play safe and add a little sealer.
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« Reply #19 on: 26.02. 2011 19:12 » |
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Mag refitted, used sealer, and it starts a treat. I'm trying to true up the rear wheel after which I look forward to a good long road test.  |
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